<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[Questions and Feedback for the C++ Committee?]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>as most of them don't speak german, I'd like to start this thread in english.<br />
I am in Contact with Michael Wong, who is attending this weeks C++ Committee Meeting in Portland.<br />
I've arranged a Videochat with Michael at our local User Group Meeting in Düsseldorf:<br />
<a href="http://chaosdorf.de/2012/10/c-user-group-treffen-im-chaosdorf-am-mi-17-10-2012" rel="nofollow">http://chaosdorf.de/2012/10/c-user-group-treffen-im-chaosdorf-am-mi-17-10-2012</a></p>
<p>I'd like to collect also some Questions and Feedback for Michael/C++ Committee about the papers which they are working on this week.<br />
An overview about the papers you'll find here:<br />
<a href="http://www.open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2012/#mailing2012-09" rel="nofollow">http://www.open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2012/#mailing2012-09</a></p>
<p>phlox81</p>
]]></description><link>https://www.c-plusplus.net/forum/topic/309158/questions-and-feedback-for-the-c-committee</link><generator>RSS for Node</generator><lastBuildDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2026 12:09:46 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://www.c-plusplus.net/forum/topic/309158.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 16:23:42 GMT</pubDate><ttl>60</ttl><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Questions and Feedback for the C++ Committee? on Mon, 15 Oct 2012 16:23:42 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>as most of them don't speak german, I'd like to start this thread in english.<br />
I am in Contact with Michael Wong, who is attending this weeks C++ Committee Meeting in Portland.<br />
I've arranged a Videochat with Michael at our local User Group Meeting in Düsseldorf:<br />
<a href="http://chaosdorf.de/2012/10/c-user-group-treffen-im-chaosdorf-am-mi-17-10-2012" rel="nofollow">http://chaosdorf.de/2012/10/c-user-group-treffen-im-chaosdorf-am-mi-17-10-2012</a></p>
<p>I'd like to collect also some Questions and Feedback for Michael/C++ Committee about the papers which they are working on this week.<br />
An overview about the papers you'll find here:<br />
<a href="http://www.open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2012/#mailing2012-09" rel="nofollow">http://www.open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2012/#mailing2012-09</a></p>
<p>phlox81</p>
]]></description><link>https://www.c-plusplus.net/forum/post/2260773</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://www.c-plusplus.net/forum/post/2260773</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[phlox81]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 16:23:42 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Questions and Feedback for the C++ Committee? on Mon, 15 Oct 2012 16:37:22 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Great <img
      src="https://www.c-plusplus.net/forum/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/emoji-one/1f44d.png?v=ab1pehoraso"
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      title=":+1:"
      alt="👍"
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<p>Questions:</p>
<ul>
<li>Why were &quot;Concepts&quot; not included in the Standard? Are you going to include it in the next standard?</li>
<li>When is the next standard approcimately gonna be published? 2017?</li>
<li>(When) are you going to remove the vector&lt;bool&gt; specialisation?</li>
</ul>
<p>Feedback: Great job so far <img
      src="https://www.c-plusplus.net/forum/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/emoji-one/1f44d.png?v=ab1pehoraso"
      class="not-responsive emoji emoji-emoji-one emoji--thumbs_up"
      title=":+1:"
      alt="👍"
    /></p>
]]></description><link>https://www.c-plusplus.net/forum/post/2260777</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://www.c-plusplus.net/forum/post/2260777</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Sone]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 16:37:22 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Questions and Feedback for the C++ Committee? on Mon, 15 Oct 2012 16:46:34 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Sone schrieb:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Great <img
      src="https://www.c-plusplus.net/forum/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/emoji-one/1f44d.png?v=ab1pehoraso"
      class="not-responsive emoji emoji-emoji-one emoji--thumbs_up"
      title=":+1:"
      alt="👍"
    /></p>
<p>Questions:</p>
<ul>
<li>Why were &quot;Concepts&quot; not included in the Standard? Are you going to include it in the next standard?</li>
<li>When is the next standard approcimately gonna be published? 2017?</li>
<li>(When) are you going to remove the vector&lt;bool&gt; specialisation?</li>
</ul>
<p>Feedback: Great job so far <img
      src="https://www.c-plusplus.net/forum/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/emoji-one/1f44d.png?v=ab1pehoraso"
      class="not-responsive emoji emoji-emoji-one emoji--thumbs_up"
      title=":+1:"
      alt="👍"
    /></p>
</blockquote>
<p>For the first 2 Questions you'll find an answer in the Stroustrup FAQ:<br />
<a href="http://www.stroustrup.com/C++11FAQ.html#1x" rel="nofollow">http://www.stroustrup.com/C++11FAQ.html#1x</a></p>
<p>But if Concepts return is a good question <img
      src="https://www.c-plusplus.net/forum/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/emoji-one/1f642.png?v=ab1pehoraso"
      class="not-responsive emoji emoji-emoji-one emoji--slightly_smiling_face"
      title=":)"
      alt="🙂"
    /></p>
]]></description><link>https://www.c-plusplus.net/forum/post/2260780</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://www.c-plusplus.net/forum/post/2260780</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[phlox81]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 16:46:34 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Questions and Feedback for the C++ Committee? on Tue, 16 Oct 2012 20:31:38 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Wer sich für den Fortschritt des Meetings interessiert, Stefanus du Toit postet einiges auf Twitter:<br />
<a href="https://twitter.com/sdt_intel" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/sdt_intel</a></p>
<p>Am interessantesten finde ich bisher diese Aussage:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Earlier Herb Sutter proposed we do a C++14 with fixes only, and as already planned C++17 with new features/changes.</p>
</blockquote>
<p><a href="https://twitter.com/sdt_intel/status/257895181230149632" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/sdt_intel/status/257895181230149632</a></p>
]]></description><link>https://www.c-plusplus.net/forum/post/2261137</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://www.c-plusplus.net/forum/post/2261137</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[phlox81]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 20:31:38 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Questions and Feedback for the C++ Committee? on Tue, 16 Oct 2012 20:36:48 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>They actually got reflection back in discussion! <img
      src="https://www.c-plusplus.net/forum/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/emoji-one/1f44d.png?v=ab1pehoraso"
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      title=":+1:"
      alt="👍"
    /></p>
]]></description><link>https://www.c-plusplus.net/forum/post/2261140</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://www.c-plusplus.net/forum/post/2261140</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Sone]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 20:36:48 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Questions and Feedback for the C++ Committee? on Thu, 18 Oct 2012 11:14:21 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>So, war ein sehr nettes Gespräch gestern. Viel neues kann man aber noch nicht so ganz sagen, da das Meeting noch bis heute abend geht.</p>
<p>Parallelism:<br />
Es wird überlegt CILK in den C++ Standard für fork/join artigen Parallelism zu integrieren.<br />
Paper: <a href="http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2012/n3409.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2012/n3409.pdf</a><br />
Bei meiner Frage zu Task-based Parallelism (siehe <a href="http://bartoszmilewski.com/2011/10/10/async-tasks-in-c11-not-quite-there-yet/" rel="nofollow">http://bartoszmilewski.com/2011/10/10/async-tasks-in-c11-not-quite-there-yet/</a>) kam Michael auch auf CILK zu sprechen, welches IMHO aber nicht ganz das ist, was Bartoz meint. Allerdings meinte Michael auch, das Taskbased Parallelism wohl mit dem nächsten Standard C++1y kommen soll.</p>
<p>Concepts<br />
Es gibt wohl nun (wieder?) eine Studygroup zu Concepts. Und laut Michael ist dies einer der Sachen die Bjarne sehr stark am Herzen liegen, Concepts könnten also auch mit C++1y kommen.</p>
<p>Filesystem<br />
Es wird wohl mit C++14 oder C++1y auch eine Filesystem Library in den Standard kommen.</p>
<p>C++14<br />
Es wird diskutiert, einen &quot;Bugfix&quot; release zu C++11 vor dem nächsten Standard zu releasen. Dies wird momentan unter dem Namen C++14 diskutiert.</p>
<p>C++1y<br />
Mommentan wohl die Bezeichnung für den nächsten Standard, der noch in diesem Jahrzehnt erscheinen soll, und neben fixes vorallem Libraries enthalten soll. Auch als C++17 bekannt.</p>
<p>Reflection<br />
Es ist wieder im Gespräch das die Sprache einen Reflection Mechanismus bekommt.</p>
<p>Module<br />
Hier gibts ne Workinggroup. Michael machte auch Andeutungen das evtl. es hier bald ein Update geben könnte, meinte aber das dies erst zur Meeting C++ spruchreif ist. Die Keynote auf der C++Now hierzu stellte zwei Konzepte vor, einmal eine Clang Erweiterung, und ein Ansatz wie man dies stärker in die Sprache integrieren könnte.</p>
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