Verdienst als Programmierer in USA?



  • Arbeitet jemand in den USA als Programmierer (oder hat es getan) und kann mir mal sagen, welches Gehalt man da ungefähr erwarten kann? Oder hat vielleicht jemand einen vernünftigen Link zu dem Thema?



  • Kürzlich bin ich über das gestolpert: http://discuss.joelonsoftware.com/default.asp?joel.3.718003.14

    There's no other career except Wall Street that regularly pays kids $75,000 right out of school, and where so many people make six figures salaries for long careers with just a bachelors degree.



  • Ich habe vor ein paar Jahren mal etwas von $100,000 gelesen, die dort ein normal guter Programmierer verdient. Sehe ich auch bestätigt, wenn ich obiges Zitat lese, bei welchem ein Einsteiger durchaus mit $75,000 rechnen kann.



  • Hallo,

    also ich arbeite momentan in Boston und verdiene 84000. Ich denke, das es durchaus möglich sein sollte, 100.000 (An der Küste) zu verdienen. Dazu musst du aber schon ein wenig aus der Masse herausragen und besondere Fähigkeiten haben, die für die Firma wichtig sind.



  • verzeiht meine Neugier || meine eventuelle Unwissenheit !

    Gibt es denn in Deutschland überhaupt einen Studiengang/Ausbildung als "Programmierer" ? Nicht FiAe o. Informatiker sondern reiner "Programmierer" !!!



  • squidward schrieb:

    Gibt es denn in Deutschland überhaupt einen Studiengang/Ausbildung als "Programmierer" ? Nicht FiAe o. Informatiker sondern reiner "Programmierer" !!!

    nicht mehr. den gabs mal. das war der, der die struktogramme übersetzen sollte. gibts angeblich nur noch in österreich.



  • volkard schrieb:

    nicht mehr. den gabs mal. das war der, der die struktogramme übersetzen sollte. gibts angeblich nur noch in österreich.

    meinst du, dass die bezeichnung nicht mehr existiert oder die tätigkeit selbst?

    && alternativen außer FiAe und Informatiker existieren in diesem Fall nicht ! || ?



  • ich meine den offiziellen lehrberuf "Programmierer".



  • Der Beitrag bezog sich ja auf die USA und da ist ein Programmierer einfach jemand, der Programme schreibt.

    Das geht vom einfachen Webdesigner (PHP,..) bis zum Senior Applications Developer.

    Berufsausbildungen sind da nicht ganz so wichtig, wie in Deutschland.
    Hauptsache man kann das, was gefordert wird.



  • Testfall schrieb:

    Berufsausbildungen sind da nicht ganz so wichtig, wie in Deutschland.
    Hauptsache man kann das, was gefordert wird.

    Also kann man quasi wenn man C++ ganz gut Beherrschen würde (und die Firma es auch fordern würde), könnte man Programmierer in der USA werden und dass ohne eine entsprechende Vorbildung ?

    Aber sicher nicht in Firmen wie Microsoft oder in der Techno Stadt Silicon Valley.
    Wahrscheinlich nur in so mittelständischen Unternehmen usw

    PS: Ich hoffe du bist ein echter mensch, ich vermutte es zumindest zu 99,99%



  • _matze schrieb:

    Arbeitet jemand in den USA als Programmierer (oder hat es getan) und kann mir mal sagen, welches Gehalt man da ungefähr erwarten kann? Oder hat vielleicht jemand einen vernünftigen Link zu dem Thema?

    USA - Haste das 'Green Card' Problem! 😞

    Ich habe mal eine Spam-Liste von heute gepostet. Mein Filter steht auf 80-100€/h+ -
    zu finden unter http://www.jobserve.us ( http://www.jobserve.us/IT_Jobs.htm ) oder http://www.dice.com/ :

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    Date 01/23/2009 18:20:59
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    WebFOCUS System Engineer
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    Advertiser MATRIX Resources, Inc. (Company)

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    Date 01/19/2009 09:58:14

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    Advertiser Employment Enterprises, Inc. (Company)
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    Date 01/21/2009 15:10:47

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    Senior Windows Server Engineer - 1438AQG894584T1~99
    New York, NY

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    Our client is seeking a qualified Senior Windows Server Engineer. The responsibilities will be to assist in the design, build and deployment of networking and Wintel Server based hardware and software; document and maintain a complete design document of Agency hardware and software systems, assets and policies and procedures. This is a 24 X 7 working environment. The consultants must be flexible to work evenings and weekends, upon request. The preferred candidate will possess: Excellent Certified technical knowledge of the Windows 2003 Enterprise Server platform; practical server experience within a large-scale, complex WAN environment. Strong understanding of Active Directory and Group Policy, Internet Information Server 6.0, Internet Security and Acceleration Server. Solid knowledge of TCP/IP, LDAP, HTTP, DHCP, WINS, and DNS; experience working with System Management Server and Windows Software Update Services, skilled expertise with installing, configuring and managing redundant systems such as load balanced Web farms, database server clustering, NAS/SAN configurations, NetApp. Knowledge in installation, upgrade and management of Virtual Environment with VMware is required. Oral and written communication skills are required. Candidates should possess knowledge of the following software applications: Windows 2003 Server OS platform, Remote installation Services, Novell Netware, Novell Groupwise, Blackberry, and McAfee Antivirus, VMware, NetApp. Also desirable are strong

    Type Contract
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    Advertiser Kforce Professional Staffing, Inc. (Company)

    Contact Recruiter
    Ref JS2241532/1438AQG894584T1~99
    Date 01/19/2009 19:26:33

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    Software Build Engineer
    Mesa, AZ

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    Software Configuration Engineer International Media Leader! As Software Build Engineer you will oversee the pre-release preparation and final staging for upcoming distribution of software products. International leader in high profile market segment requires talented organized tech wizard with broad background to insure success. Growing software product line insures significant growth opportunity. Requires experience with: Java, Tomcat, and Install Shield in a Windows setting is highly desired. Respond today for immediate consideration. Required Experience Build Engineer Java/J2EE Tomcat Ant IIS Cruise Control Required Skills Build Engineer J2EE Apache IIS Cruise Control Ant Windows Scripting Benefits/Perks Medical, Dental, Vision, and Life Insurance for Full-time W2 Consultants Supplemental Disability and Long-Term Care Insurance, Dependent Care Assistance 401(k) with Roth feature 529 Educational Savings Plan Free E-learning Courses Application Requirements Client will only consider local candidates. Unable to sponsor H1-b visas at this time Please Note: Your Resume will never be submitted to a client company without your prior knowledge and consent to do so. About MATRIX For more than 25 years, MATRIX has placed talented contract and permanent IT professionals like yourself at thousands of top-notch organizations throughout the U.S., ranging from Fortune 50 to small IT shops across all industries. Put the Power of Collaboration to work for you! Apply today at MATRIX.

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    Type Contract
    Start Date ASAP
    Duration 6-12 months
    Advertiser MATRIX Resources, Inc. (Company)

    Contact Matrix Associate
    Phone 602-522-3300
    Ref JS2263892/CPHX802933
    Date 01/19/2009 03:56:23

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    Software Engineer IV - 1438NRC894830T1~99
    Saint Petersburg, FL

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    Our client is seeking a Software Engineer IV. The responsibilities and duties of this position include but are not limited to: Analysing system requirements and problems and developing technology solutions. Identifying program interactions and interfaces analysing business processes, procedures, problems and information requirements. Refining data for conversion Writing system specifications Specifically, the developer will be expected to troubleshoot and repair VB6 modules and C++ COM+ components The Development Consulting team is staffed with individuals who are assigned to Development Core Teams to work on high-priority projects This team works across a variety of applications, acting as consultants on specific technologies and methodologies Required Skills: We are looking for a Systems Engineer with the following experience: 9+ years in development 5+ years in Windows Development 4 years of Mainframe experience at some point in their background (We are looking for a Windows Software Engineer with Mainframe experience. Not a Mainframe developer with some Windows experience) C# Assessment is required Specific Skills in (all required): C# ASP.

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    Advertiser Kforce Professional Staffing, Inc. (Company)

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    Start Date 01-22-2009
    Duration Long term
    Advertiser Kforce Professional Staffing, Inc. (Company)

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    Ref JS2256796/1438WQG897917T1~99
    Date 01/19/2009 23:16:16

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    Build Engineer - 1438WQG904837T1~99
    Austin, TX

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    An Austin based client is looking for a consultant for a long-term contract. Individuals must be able to pass a background check. Purpose for this Engineer: Become familiar with the current build system Provide support and troubleshooting for current build system (30%) Analyze requirements for build system needs and overhaul the build system (70%) The current build system is essentially two build environments; these will need to be consolidated. The build system will need to be optimized for parallel builds, distributed builds, incremental builds (that can be trusted), and ease of adding new S/W modules to the build. Required Skills: Qualifying for this opportunity necessitates the following: Bachelor's degree in CS, Engineering, Math, or Physics 10-15 years of experience Demonstrable experience with large-scale, parallel, and distributed build systems.

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    Date 01/21/2009 08:45:40

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    Date 01/23/2009 16:40:50

    WebSphere Application Server Engineer
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    Advertiser MATRIX Resources, Inc. (Company)

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    Date 01/23/2009 21:25:42
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    C++ Engineer - 1438-AQG-895156T1-99
    Burlington, MA

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    Our customer is looking for a Senior C++ Engineer. This consultant will work on a mobile ad-hoc networking application and with emphasis on security. Candidates must be eligible to work in the United States of America. Required Skills: This candidate has to be experienced using basic Microsoft libraries and must have recent C++ experience. Knowledge of the 'transport layer' is a must, as well as multi-threading. TCP-IP experience is a major plus. Experience working on Unix/Linux platform is a must.

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    IIS Engineer
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    Ref JS2258122/
    Date 01/23/2009 12:48:55
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    Business Process Consultant
    Round Rock, TX

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    Define field service management and business processes, scenarios for Client Platform and document using Client required format, tools Participate in Client design validation forums and modify processes as a result, including adding work instruction detail once initial designs verified Define measurement system for service management processes and provide reporting needs to Client reporting leads in required format Participate in quality assurance audits on assigned processes and provide required documentation as needed Provide user scenarios to Client test team in required format and modify processes as a result Provide user scenarios to Client training team in required format Evaluate process performance during and post deployment and identify improvement plans as needed Execute process improvement plans as needed Required Skills: Business Process,CAD,CAM,CAE,Mechanical Design Engineer,PMI

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    Duration 3 months
    Advertiser Sai People Solutions, Inc. (Company)

    Phone 281-358-9411 ext 117
    Ref JS2289626/44031
    Date 01/23/2009 13:10:53

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    Network Consultant - JO11909-Network
    Salem, VA

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    Systems Engineer/Network Administrator position : We need a local resource for this position. Skills. .This is a small installation, less than 10 servers, 10-15 desktops, and assorted networking devices. Must understand all aspects of support required in a Data Center. *Contract extension beyond 6/30/09 is probable but cannot be guaranteed. *Candidates currently located in SW VA or the surrounding areas are strongly preferred. Required/Desired Skills Skill Required/Desired Amount of Experience Data Center management Required 5 Years Microsoft Windows Server 2000 and 2003 administration and support exp Required 8 Years Cisco and/or Nortel Router and switch installation, configuration and mgmt Required 8 Years TCP/IP, LAN/WAN development and management work experience Required 8 Years Exp mnging services and backups for Oracle databases on a Windows platform Required 5 Years Good change mgmt process experience Required 3 Years Solid troubleshooting and support skills Required 5 Years Bachelor's Degree in Computer Science or related area Required. Please quote rate and availablity [view full job]

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    Duration 6 months
    Advertiser Hamilton Grey Technology Search, Inc. (Company)

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    Ref JS2286669/JO11909-NETWORK
    Date 01/19/2009 22:55:34

    Senior Network/Telephony Engineer - 1438NRC900789T1~99
    Pleasanton, CA

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    The Contact Center Strategy Telephony Infrastructure team of our client's Information Technology division is seeking an exceptional Solutions Consultant Specialist to help lead in the delivery of a large, complex, multi-year telephony infrastructure project. This project includes working with a managed services vendor to implement contact center virtualization, multi-channel contact centers, intelligent routing, computer telephony integration, enterprise reporting/analytics, telephonic and Web self-service, etc. This individual will provide expertise to assigned projects in support of the Contact Center's Telephony Infrastructure Managed Services Implementation. They will also assist the Contact Center Services deployment team in a major initiative to move contact center technologies from a decentralized, disparate telephony infrastructure to a centralized hosted infrastructure through the use of a Managed Service Provider. Sample Responsibilities: Drive and coordinate the delivery of technical solutions throughout Healthplan and Clinical Call Centers Bring telephony expertise with company defined core and value added capabilities such as Skills Based Routing, Self Service IVR Capability, Quality Monitoring, Workforce Management, and Outbound Campaign Management Track internal and external vendor deliverables to ensure that they meet committed scope, schedule, and budget Participate in all phases of projects, from concept through deployment, including, system requirements [view full job]

    Type Contract
    Start Date ASAP
    Advertiser Kforce Professional Staffing, Inc. (Company)

    Contact Recruiter
    Ref JS2267455/1438NRC900789T1~99
    Date 01/21/2009 11:04:22

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    VB Java Engineer - 1438EQG889377T1~99
    Madison, WI

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    Kforce Professional Staffing is looking for Java Developers. Candidates who are both qualified and interested are encouraged to apply today. This is the perfect opportunity for the right candidate. Required Skills: This role requires 3-5 years of Java, Visual Basic, and C#. Consultants with strong hands on experience with the skill sets listed about should contact Kforce Professional Staffing. [view full job]

    Type Contract
    Start Date ASAP
    Advertiser Kforce Professional Staffing, Inc. (Company)

    Contact Recruiter
    Ref JS2223410/1438EQG889377T1~99
    Date 01/21/2009 03:34:15

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    Software Systems Engineer - 1438NRC900713T1~99
    Boston, MA

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    Kforce is currently recruiting for an experienced Java Developer to work a six month contract opportunity in the Boston, MA area. Job responsibilities include creating custom applications, build table frames and forms, and write scripts across different browser types. The Consultant will be responsible for performing a variety of complex technical work in the design, development, preparation, testing, and support of computer programs. Required Skills: Qualified candidates must be an expert in Sybase Afaria, iAnywhere, Java, and SQL. Qualified candidates must also be local. [view full job]

    Type Contract
    Start Date 01-22-2009
    Duration 6 months
    Advertiser Kforce Professional Staffing, Inc. (Company)

    Contact Recruiter
    Ref JS2267485/1438NRC900713T1~99
    Date 01/21/2009 11:04:13



  • squidward schrieb:

    Testfall schrieb:

    Berufsausbildungen sind da nicht ganz so wichtig, wie in Deutschland.
    Hauptsache man kann das, was gefordert wird.

    Also kann man quasi wenn man C++ ganz gut Beherrschen würde (und die Firma es auch fordern würde), könnte man Programmierer in der USA werden und dass ohne eine entsprechende Vorbildung ?

    Leider ist das nicht ganz so einfach. Es ist schon richtig, das die formale Berufsausbildung nicht ganz so wichtig ist. Aber du mußt den Arbeitgeber überzeugen können, das du der Richtige bist. Dieser würde dann ein Arbeitsvisum für dich beantragen. Aber mit reinen C++ Kenntnissen wirst du nicht weiterkommen. Du brauchst Spezialwissen! Ohne dieses macht sich kein Arbeitgeber die Mühe, ein Visum zu beantragen.

    Ein anderer Weg wäre natürlich die Green Card.

    squidward schrieb:

    PS: Ich hoffe du bist ein echter mensch, ich vermutte es zumindest zu 99,99%

    Nani .... 😕



  • Testfall schrieb:

    squidward schrieb:

    Testfall schrieb:

    Berufsausbildungen sind da nicht ganz so wichtig, wie in Deutschland.
    Hauptsache man kann das, was gefordert wird.

    Also kann man quasi wenn man C++ ganz gut Beherrschen würde (und die Firma es auch fordern würde), könnte man Programmierer in der USA werden und dass ohne eine entsprechende Vorbildung ?

    Leider ist das nicht ganz so einfach. Es ist schon richtig, das die formale Berufsausbildung nicht ganz so wichtig ist. Aber du mußt den Arbeitgeber überzeugen können, das du der Richtige bist. Dieser würde dann ein Arbeitsvisum für dich beantragen.

    auch das ist nicht so einfach, ich war auch durch bei den tests fuer einen gewissen mmorpg anbieter( 🕶 ) und dann haben die visa beantragt und

    We have been informed that the quota for the H1B Visa’s into the USA has been reached

    .
    wenn man also will, sollte man unbedingt anfang des jahres anpeilen, august war fuer mich entsprechend zu spaet.

    als "spezialist" hat man die chance Visa oder Greencard zu bekommen (also auch ausserhalb der lotterie). dabei definiert die firma, ob man einer ist.



  • Leider ist das nicht ganz so einfach. Es ist schon richtig, das die formale Berufsausbildung nicht ganz so wichtig ist. Aber du mußt den Arbeitgeber überzeugen können, das du der Richtige bist. Dieser würde dann ein Arbeitsvisum für dich beantragen. Aber mit reinen C++ Kenntnissen wirst du nicht weiterkommen. Du brauchst Spezialwissen! Ohne dieses macht sich kein Arbeitgeber die Mühe, ein Visum zu beantragen.

    Welche Programmier Kenntnisse währen da noch angebracht ?

    squidward schrieb:

    PS: Ich hoffe du bist ein echter mensch, ich vermutte es zumindest zu 99,99%

    Nani .... 😕[/quote]

    Bedank dich bei einem Mod. hier !
    Ich kann seitdem nicht zwischen Bot und Mensch unterscheiden. Traurig aber Wahr!



  • squidward schrieb:

    Leider ist das nicht ganz so einfach. Es ist schon richtig, das die formale Berufsausbildung nicht ganz so wichtig ist. Aber du mußt den Arbeitgeber überzeugen können, das du der Richtige bist. Dieser würde dann ein Arbeitsvisum für dich beantragen. Aber mit reinen C++ Kenntnissen wirst du nicht weiterkommen. Du brauchst Spezialwissen! Ohne dieses macht sich kein Arbeitgeber die Mühe, ein Visum zu beantragen.

    Welche Programmier Kenntnisse währen da noch angebracht ?

    Kommt drauf an, was dir so liegt. Was mich betrifft, war es Parallel-Programmierung und CUDA. Es könnte aber auch embedded Software (Microcontroller, RTOS,...) sein oder Netzwerkprogrammierung (BitTorrent, TCP/IP,...) oder beides (Bluetooth, IWlan,...) 🙂
    Es gibt da echt viele Möglichkeiten.

    squidward schrieb:

    PS: Ich hoffe du bist ein echter mensch, ich vermutte es zumindest zu 99,99%
    Nani .... 😕

    Bedank dich bei einem Mod. hier !
    Ich kann seitdem nicht zwischen Bot und Mensch unterscheiden. Traurig aber Wahr!

    ok 😉

    So schwierig ist das mit dem Arbeitsvisum aber auch nicht. Ich arbeite für eine ziemlich kleine Firma und habe einige Kollegen, die mit einem Arbeitsvisum nach Amerika gekommen sind. Wenn die Firma wirklich will, geht das.



  • So schwierig ist das mit dem Arbeitsvisum aber auch nicht. Ich arbeite für eine ziemlich kleine Firma und habe einige Kollegen, die mit einem Arbeitsvisum nach Amerika gekommen sind. Wenn die Firma wirklich will, geht das.

    Du hast ja keine Ahnung von was Du da sprichst, besonderst der Teil

    Wenn die Firma wirklich will, geht das.

    ist wirklich suess. Dieser Artikel beleuchtet etwas, welche Probleme MS bereits hat die Visas zu bekommen. (http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/322652_msftvancouver06.html)

    Fakt ist, dass die Spielregeln fuer Visas in den USA staendig geaendert werden und man selbst mir sehr guten Kanzleien keine Garantie hat, ein Visa auch zu bekommen. Ausserdem ist man bei so eiem Visa auch leicht bei Kosten von 5.000 bis 10.000 USD, wenn man wirklich alle Kosten kalkuliert.

    Falls hier jemand Details und Kontakte bzw. Visas in den USA benoetigt darf er sich gerne an mich wenden.



  • Ein Visum, viele Visa... aber nicht ein Visa, viele Visas. 🤡



  • Tja, da bin ich wohl schon zu lange hier in den USA. Wir haengen ueberall nen s drann und fertig ist der Plural. 😉



  • Oli+ schrieb:

    Tja, da bin ich wohl schon zu lange hier in den USA. Wir haengen ueberall nen s drann und fertig ist der Plural. 😉

    Das würde Visums entschuldigen, aber nicht Visas. :p



  • Oli+ schrieb:

    So schwierig ist das mit dem Arbeitsvisum aber auch nicht. Ich arbeite für eine ziemlich kleine Firma und habe einige Kollegen, die mit einem Arbeitsvisum nach Amerika gekommen sind. Wenn die Firma wirklich will, geht das.

    Du hast ja keine Ahnung von was Du da sprichst, besonderst der Teil

    Wenn die Firma wirklich will, geht das.

    ist wirklich suess. Dieser Artikel beleuchtet etwas, welche Probleme MS bereits hat die Visas zu bekommen. (http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/322652_msftvancouver06.html)

    Stimmt schon 😃

    Da ich einen US-Pass habe, mußte ich selber kein Visum beantragen. Ich kenne aber sehr viele Leute, die mit einem Arbeitsvisum in die USA gekommen sind. Deswegen glaube ich, dass das nicht sooo schwierig sein kann.

    Die Green cards für meine Frau und meine Tochter haben zusammen etwa 1100 EUR gekostet, deswegen denke ich, das du mit den 5000-10000$ ziemlich falsch liegst.

    Aber es gibt ein ganz gutes Forum, wo man sich genauer informieren kann.
    http://www.auswanderer-forum.com/forums/

    Viel Spaß dabei.


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